His Holiness the Dalai Lama ( a Rio Earth Summit Green ) : introduction, current international schedule, resources

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Keywords : HH The Dalai Lama, public Dalai Lama talks on world peace, Dalai Lama resources and current schedule, Nobel Peace Prize, universal human [ secular ] ethics, deep permaculture ethics.

Summary: Provided here is (1) the current tour schedule for His Holiness the Dalai Lama [ for California, Massachusetts, New York, Denmark, Iceland, Netherlands, India, Germany ], (2) an introduction to the life and work of HH the Dalai Lama, (3) book references and resources, and (4) curriculum vitae.

HH the Dalai Lama:
“Never give up.
No matter what is going on.
Never give up.
Develop the heart.
Be compassionate.
Not just to your friends but to everyone.
Work for peace in your heart and in the world.
Work for peace and I say again:
Never give up.
No matter what is happening.
No matter what is going on around you.
Never give up.”

Introduction:

All Our Relations. Mitakuye Oyasin.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama is one of the pivotal figures of our time. He is, more than anyone else that can be presently named, a world citizen and world teacher.

His work in ethics, human rights,world peace, psychology and education, Buddhist teaching and East West relations, is second to none in our generation.

In addition to a Nobel Peace Prize and the US Congressional Gold Medal, HH the Dalai Lama has received scores of honorary Doctorates ( in Laws, Philosophy, Human Letters, Divinity, Buddhist Philosophy, and so forth ) from major teaching centers worldwide. These include Columba, Brandeis, Universite de Paris, Benaras Hindu University, Hebrew University Jerusalem, U California San Francisco, and Rissho University Tokyo. He is an honorary citizen of Canada, of Roma Italia and so forth.

He speaks worldwide and has published more than seventy two books.

He is one of the most respected and revered persons on the the planet. On one visit to New York City some years back, forty thousand people turned out to see the Dalai Lama in the park.

When the Dalai Lama gives the Highest Yoga Tantra initiation ( abhisekha ) of Kalacakra, the attendees sometimes number 100,000 or even 200,000. HH the Dalai Lama has given this initiation thirty times in different parts of the world. In addition to being a master of the Great Seal ( Mahamudra ) lineage of Buddhist tantra, he also gives initiations of the Great Perfection ( Mahasandhi, Atiyoga ), for example in London, in San Francisco, and Paris.

You can see him this year at public talks in several areas, such as California, Massachusetts, New York, Europe, and India. A current schedule is provided below.

I have seen HH the Dalai Lama give extremely worthwhile empowerments in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and represented him to the State Legislature of Hawaii in 1993, where he was invited to give a talk, and did. I have listened carefully to him conferencing with Hawaiian elders in public and was struck by the care and attention he gave in listening to others, and in asking questions.

HH the Dalai Lama has written extremely important books on psychology and ethics, and I recommend these to the general public for self-help purposes, and also recommend some of his books to those committed to public service, especially in the area of multiculturalism, international human rights work, and the international Green Party movement.

Because of the profound confluence of modern events, global economics, environmental issues and human cultures, the importance of broader and deeper human co-operation becomes more and more important.

To obtain a broader and clearer understanding and principles for working with these most important issues, studying the secular works of the Dalai Lama is of great value and importance.

Similarly, His Holiness is one of the few people who can and does speak for the diverse Buddhist populations and traditions worldwide. He has taught senior Japanese tantric Buddhist gurus of the Shingon lineage in their country, for instance. His Holiness is a paragon of the Buddhist renunciate order ( bhiksu-sangha ), of Buddhist scholarship, and of the Mahayana Great Way lineages, all of which are profoundly universal.

This teacher is one of our very very best, be you a psychologist or academic, a diplomat, a tantric yogi, or a Buddhist practitioner. He has completely revolutionized Buddhist teaching, parts of popular modern culture, the understanding of international diplomacy and so forth in our lifetime.

This is someone who actually embodies many of the key principles of the United Nations treaties on human rights, and also the key Buddhist Mahayana principles and teachings. It is important to note that the Mahayana Buddhist principles and the principles of the UN human rights work are essentially identical. There are universal principles that take us all forward, individually and together. In Buddhist Sanskrit these terms are, for instance pratitya-samutpada and karma. Now you know.

The final point I wish to put forward to all is this: the Dalai Lama believes in all of us as people who *already* have sensitive human hearts that can be educated and developed, and he shows all of us a very real and practical way forward, a way based on self-understanding, listening and mutual respect, and patient co-operation.

You could do worse, and please remember that due to impermanence, this elder teacher will not live forever. It is not clear how anyone anywhere can replace him.

I see no real alternative to respect and co-operation for the common good, because we are one world. For this broader and deeper reason, and not specifically because he is a Buddhist guru, I support this teacher. He was not allowed by their government to attend a recent peace conference in South Africa, but he is available to you, and he is here for All Our Relations. May he live long and may his brilliant consciousness reach many many more.

Thank you,
KT, Rio Earth Summit/ Green Party bioregional class organizer and so forth

In partial fulfillment of my formal Mahayana teaching responsibilities.
Sarva mangalam! Siddhi rastu!
[ May it be auspicious! May there be accomplishment! ]

John David Bartoe, Challenger 8 NASA space mission, July 1985:
“As I looked down, I saw large river meandering slowly along for miles, passing from one country to another without stopping. I also saw huge forests, extending across several borders. And I watched the extent of one ocean touch the shores of several continents. Two words leaped to mind as I looked down on all of this: commonality and interdependence. We are one world.”


Some of the following materials are taken from
www.dalailama.com/
Published books and multimedia materials are available at libraries throughout the world, and from Snow Lion Publications at
www.snowlionpub.com

From the official web site:

“Universal Recognition

“His Holiness the Dalai Lama is a man of peace. In 1989 he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his non-violent struggle for the liberation of Tibet. He has consistently advocated policies of non-violence, even in the face of extreme aggression. He also became the first Nobel Laureate to be recognized for his concern for global environmental problems.

“His Holiness has travelled to more than 62 countries spanning 6 continents. He has met with presidents, prime ministers and crowned rulers of major nations. He has held dialogues with the heads of different religions and many well-known scientists.

“Since 1959 His Holiness has received over 84 awards, honorary doctorates, prizes, etc., in recognition of his message of peace, non-violence, inter-religious understanding, universal responsibility and compassion. His Holiness has also authored more than 72 books.

“His Holiness describes himself as a simple Buddhist monk.”

“Three Main Commitments in Life
“Firstly, on the level of a human being, His Holiness first commitment is the promotion of human values such as compassion, forgiveness, tolerance, contentment and self-discipline. All human beings are the same. We all want happiness and do not want suffering. Even people who do not believe in religion recognize the importance of these human values in making their life happier. His Holiness refers to these human values as secular ethics. He remains committed to talk about the importance of these human values and share them with everyone he meets.

“Secondly, on the level of a religious practitioner, His Holiness second commitment is the promotion of religious harmony and understanding among the world's major religious traditions. Despite philosophical differences, all major world religions have the same potential to create good human beings. It is therefore important for all religious traditions to respect one another and recognize the value of each other's respective traditions. As far as one truth, one religion is concerned, this is relevant on an individual level. However, for the community at large, several truths, several religions are necessary.
“Thirdly, His Holiness is a Tibetan and carries the name of the Dalai Lama. Tibetans place their trust in him. Therefore, his third commitment is to the Tibetan issue. His Holiness has a responsibility to act as the free spokesperson of the Tibetans in their struggle for justice. As far as this third commitment is concerned, it will cease to exist once a mutually beneficial solution is reached between the Tibetans and Chinese.

However, His Holiness will carry on with the first two commitments till his last breath.”

Upcoming Schedule
2009
Lecture in Santa Barbara, CA, USA on April 24: His Holiness will give a lecture on The Nature of Mind organized by the University of Santa Barbara at the UCSB Events Center. Contact Website: www.religion.ucsb.edu/dalailama/
Public Talk in Santa Barbara, CA, USA on April 24: His Holiness will give a public talk on Ethics for Our Time organized by the University of Santa Barbara at the UCSB Events Center. Contact Website: www.religion.ucsb.edu/dalailama/
Public Talk in Berkeley, CA, USA on April 25: His Holiness will give a public talk on Peace Through Compassion organized by the University of California, Berkeley at the Greek Theater. Contact Website: www.berkeley.edu

Public Talk in Boston, MA, USA on April 30: His Holiness will give a public talk to the Harvard University Community on Educating the Heart organized by Harvard University at the Memorial Church. Contact Website: www.harvard.edu
Inauguration of The Dalai Lama Center on April 30: His Holiness will inaugurate The Dalai Lama Center at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) by giving a talk on Ethics and Enlightened Leadership. Contact Website: www.thecenter.mit.edu
Panel Discussion in Boston, MA on May 1: His Holiness will participate in a panel discussion on Meditation and Psychotherapy – Cultivating Compassion and Wisdom organized by the Harvard Medical School Department of Continuing Education at Boston Park Plaza Hotel. Contact Website: www.cme.med.harvard.edu/index.asp
Teaching in Boston, MA on May 2: His Holiness will give a teaching in the morning on What Is Buddhism & Commentary on The Four Noble Truths organized by the Tibetan Association of Boston at the Gillette Stadium, Foxboro. Contact Website: www.bostontibet.org
Public Talk in Boston, MA on May 2: His Holiness will give a public talk in the afternoon on The Path to Peace and Inner Happiness organized by the Tibetan Association of Boston at the Gillette Stadium, Foxboro. Contact Website: www.bostontibet.org

Public Talk in New York, NY on May 3: His Holiness will participate in a conversation with Mary Robinson, former President of Ireland and former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, and moderated by Pico Iyer on Wisdom & Compassion for Challenging Times and organized by The Tibet Fund at The Town Hall. Contact Website: www.tibetfund.org

Teaching in New York, NY on May 4: His Holiness will give a teaching on The Quintessence of Compassion organized by The Tibet House at The New Beacon Theater. Contact Website: www.tibethouse.org
Public Talk in Albany, NY on May 6: His Holiness will give a public talk on Compassionate Ethics in Difficult Times organized by the World Ethical Foundations Consortium at the Albany Palace Theater. Contact Website: www.worldethicalfoundations.org

Teaching in Copenhagen, Denmark from May 30 & 31: His Holiness will give a day and a half teaching on Nagarjuna's Commentary on Bodhicitta (jangchup semdrel) & Kamalashila's The Middling Stages of Meditation (gomrim barpa) at the Bella Center. Contact Website: www.dalailama.dk
Public Talk in Copenhagen, Denmark on May 31: His Holiness will give a public talk on Peace Through Inner Peace at the Bella Center. Contact Website: www.dalailama.dk

Public Talk in Reykjavik, Iceland on June 2: His Holiness will give a public talk on the topic on Values, Attitude and Happiness at the Laugardalsholl Sporting Arena. Contact Website: www.dalailama.is

Teaching in Amsterdam, The Netherlands on June 4: His Holiness will give a teaching on Shantideva’s Chapter 6 on Patience from A Guide to the Bodhisattva’s Way of Life at the Rai Congress Center. Contact Website: www.dalailamanederland.nl
Public Talk in Amsterdam, The Netherlands on June 4: His Holiness will give a public talk on The Power of Compassion At A Turbulent Time at the Rai Congress Center. Contact Website: www.dalailamanederland.nl

Teaching in Kaza, H.P., India from July 10 to 12: His Holiness will give three-day teachings at the request of the Sakya Monastery in Kaza. On July 10 His Holiness will give a Buddhist teaching (topic yet to be decided). On July 11 and 12 His Holiness will confer the Avalokiteshvera Initiation (chenresig wangchen).

Teaching in Frankfurt, Germany on July 30 & 31: His Holiness will give a day and a half teaching on Kamalashila's The Middling Stages of Meditation (gomrim barpa). On the morning of July 31 he will confer an Amitabha Empowerment (opakmey jenang). Contact Website: www.dalailama-frankfurt.de



Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance Speech
[ University Aula, Oslo, 10 December 1989 ] :

Your Majesty, Members of the Nobel Committee, Brothers and Sisters.

I am very happy to be here with you today to receive the Nobel Prize for Peace. I feel honored, humbled and deeply moved that you should give this important prize to a simple monk from Tibet I am no one special. But I believe the prize is a recognition of the true value of altruism, love, compassion and non-violence which I try to practice, in accordance with the teachings of the Buddha and the great sages of India and Tibet, I accept the prize with profound gratitude on behalf of the oppressed everywhere and for all those who struggle for freedom and work for world peace.

I accept it as a tribute to the man who founded the modern tradition of non-violent action for change Mahatma Gandhi whose life taught and inspired me. And, of course, I accept it on behalf of the six million Tibetan people, my brave countrymen and women inside Tibet, who have suffered and continue to suffer so much. They confront a calculated and systematic strategy aimed at the destruction of their national and cultural identities. The prize reaffirms our conviction that with truth, courage and determination as our weapons, Tibet will be liberated.

No matter what part of the world we come from, we are all basically the same human beings. We all seek happiness and try to avoid suffering. We have the same basic human needs and is concerns. All of us human beings want freedom and the right to determine our own destiny as individuals and as peoples. That is human nature. The great changes that are taking place everywhere in the world, from Eastern Europe to Africa are a clear indication of this.

In China the popular movement for democracy was crushed by brutal force in June this year. But I do not believe the demonstrations were in vain, because the spirit of freedom was rekindled among the Chinese people and China cannot escape the impact of this spirit of freedom sweeping many parts of the world. The brave students and their supporters showed the Chinese leadership and the world the human face of that great nation.

Last week a number of Tibetans were once again sentenced to prison terms of upto nineteen years at a mass show trial, possibly intended to frighten the population before today's event. Their only 'crime" was the expression of the widespread desire of Tibetans for the restoration of their beloved country's independence.
The suffering of our people during the past forty years of occupation is well documented. Ours has been a long struggle. We know our cause is just Because violence can only breed more violence and suffering, our struggle must remain non-violent and free of hatred. We are trying to end the suffering of our people, not to inflict suffering upon others.

It is with this in mind that I proposed negotiations between Tibet and China on numerous occasions. In 1987, I made specific proposals in a Five-Point plan for the restoration of peace and human rights in Tibet. This included the conversion of the entire Tibetan plateau into a Zone of Ahimsa, a sanctuary of peace and non-violence where human beings and nature can live in peace and harmony.
last year, I elaborated on that plan in Strasbourg, at the European Parliament I believe the ideas I expressed on those occasions are both realistic. and reasonable although they have been criticised by some of my people as being too conciliatory. Unfortunately, China's leaders have not responded positively to the suggestions we have made, which included important concessions. If this continues we will be compelled to reconsider our position.

Any relationship between Tibet and China will have to be based on the principle of equality, respect, trust and mutual benefit. It will also have to be based on the principle which the wise rulers of Tibet and of China laid down in a treaty as early as 823 AD, carved on the pillar which still stands today in front of the Jokhang, Tibet's holiest shrine, in Lhasa, that "Tibetans will live happily in the great land of Tibet, and the Chinese will live happily in the great land of China".

As a Buddhist monk, my concern extends to all members of the human family and, indeed, to all sentient beings who suffer. I believe all suffering is caused by ignorance. People inflict pain on others in the selfish pursuit of their happiness or satisfaction. Yet true happiness comes from a sense of brotherhood and sisterhood. We need to cultivate a universal responsibility for one another and the planet we share. Although I have found my own Buddhist religion helpful in generating love and com¬passion, even for those we consider our enemies, I am convinced that everyone can develop a good heart and a sense of universal responsibility with or without religion.

With the ever growing impact of science on our lives, religion and spirituality have a greater role to play reminding us of our humanity. There is no contradiction between the two. Each gives us valuable insights into the other. Both science and the teachings of the Buddha tell us of the fundamental unity of all things. This understanding is crucial if we are to take positive and decisive action on the pressing global concern with the environment.

I believe all religions pursue the same goals, that of cultivating human goodness and bringing happiness to all human beings. Though the means might appear different the ends are the same.
As we enter the final decade of this century I am optimistic that the ancient values that have sustained mankind are today reaffirming themselves to prepare us for a kinder, happier twenty-first century.

I pray for all of us, oppressor and friend, that together we succeed in building a better world through human under-standing and love, and that in doing so we may reduce the pain and suffering of all sentient beings.
Thank you.

[ end posting ]
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K
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  • Here's some food for thought:

    Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth
    (updated and expanded version, January 2007)
    by Michael Parenti
    www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
    • K
      K
      offline 141

      This is an important response, and I thank you.

      Re the following from the above link
      "Religions have had a close relationship not only with violence but with economic exploitation."

      Absolutely. But the Nobel Peace Prize Committee honored the Dalai Lama, not Stalin, Mao DzeDong, nor Pol Pot. The Al Qaeda leadership doesn't seem to be making it to the Peace Prize nominations anytime soon.

      Two Buddhist leaders have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize ; the Dalai Lama and Aung San Suu Kyi.

      The Dalai Lama is one of the principal inspirations for the international Green Party Movement, just like Ralph Nader.

      The old political theocracy in Tibet is gone, as are the million Tibetans who starved to death under Marxist Chinese rule.
      Maybe you prefer the Marxists more, but they killed about eighty million to one hundred million civilians in the last century.

      The Dalai Lama is a Rio Earth Summit speaker and leader, and he supports freedom and democracy for everyone everywhere.

      The Buddhist community is growing rapidly in Europe, without any theocracy involved. It's a natural human aspiration for freedom and cooperation ans self understanding, etc. The Guru Sakyamuni Buddha left his throne and became a wandering monk. Buddhists don't need theocracy, they need freedom. Like everyone else, right?

      This one's for Petra Kelly.

      Your turn.

      KT, bioregional class Green Party Organizer ( 1992 and 1996 )

      Check these out:

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      Can I cook or can I cook? I am still very much a major player in the sustainable environmental democracy movement. It is clearly seen by all here. Now you know.

      We can talk more about Aung San Suu Kyi, Marxism, and Islam later. This is just a starting point.
      Again, thank you.

      KT


      • K says, "But the Nobel Peace Prize Committee honored the Dalai Lama, not Stalin, Mao DzeDong, nor Pol Pot. The Al Qaeda leadership doesn't seem to be making it to the Peace Prize nominations anytime soon."

        Nice red herrings.

        Henry Kissinger, a leader of U.S. imperialism involved in the murder of millions of South East Asians is also a Nobel Peace Laureate.

        "His Holiness" the god king Dalai Lama ruled over a society where chattel slavery and feudal slavery still existed. Punishments for run-away slaves and communists included amputations of limbs and the gouging out of eyes.

        The Dalai Lama theocracy that carried out these crimes lived in luxury and kept the majority in grinding poverty. Yet, they counseled that the lot of the surfs, slaves, and women was a result of their bad karma from past lives.

        After the hell of Dalai Lama rule was overthrown the Dalai Lama took aid from the CIA and carried out a guerrilla war all through the 60's to bring back hid feudal theocracy.

        The Dalai Lama worthy of a peace prize? Sure, just like war criminal Henry Kissinger.
        • In some ways lots of Peace'is to Peace.
          I Saw the Dalai Lama speak in Atlanta. If I was to say the one word that I heard him say that resonated most profoundly besides the word Peace, It is and was the word Respect.
          Peace is not War, Respect is not Damnation, The Question may be legitimate but The Point is still Peace.
          I don't know all the details, Truths, Subjective Truths, Relative Truths, and lies, But If the Current man(who is not here to answer these questions) Stands for at least some basic Peace, of and to, Peace, he from your perception of the truth deserves from you at least that much respect , and When or if you can ever possibly relate to the intricacies of that mans shoes maybe you would choose more forgiveness, you may not agree with all scenarios, actions, words, etc., but we all need a little respect, and or forgiveness, once in a while.
          I do not know you, might i assume friend, either therefore what i have said here goes for me also. If you assume my disrespect, I apologize, and communicate my respects and aspirations of and for perfection before you and all. The point is still Peace, I believe at least in my definition of the word respect, this is a word meant to allow for a fair and basic distance from problems for the greater healing of the individual, the world and all's progressions towards greater Peace, and in general forgiveness of past hardships, for the greater clarity of the moment. My choice is to respect the Man for the present actions and representations of his persona and efforts for Peace.

          I also 2 as Kt respects(if i may Assume from the words written by him), I respect also, Were you are coming from, as best i can from my limited perception of your reality and persona, And commend you for your Journey to this Point, and your involvement with this Tribe, which in my minds perceptions shows your efforts and aspirations for and to greater Peace.

          Peace & Blessing

          Oo0oO

          • Since the U.S. government funded the Dalai Lama with personal expenses in the hundreds of thousands per year,

            And since the CIA funded a guerrilla war led by the Dalai Lama all through the 60's,

            And since the Dalai Lama is a supposed international spokesperson for peace who actually has supported U.S. imperialist wars beyond the one he waged,

            And since the CIA tried to re-impose the Dalai Lama slaveocracy and theocracy to Tibet as a foothold to launch a wider contra war to re-impose another puppet dictatorship in China like the Chang Kai Chek dictatorship overthrown in 1949,

            And since the former slaves of Tibet do not want the Dalai Lama back in power no matter how many American new-agers go ga-ga over him,

            I'd say that the Dalai Lama is promoting war under the lies of religion and "peace".
            • Unsu...
               
              When it comes to killing, I have serious doubts about the credibility of the Dalai Lama.

              The Dalai Lama's position on Iraq was deplorable and mind boggling.

              Recently, the Dalai Lama described George W. Bush as "very straight forward," saying, "I feel some good quality of human being, not like great leader or politician." abclocal.go.com/kgo/story
              • K
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                albertatalks.ca/2009/05/07...in-calgary/

                South African leader who abolished apartheid joins His Holiness the Dalai Lama in Calgary

                Former South African president and Nobel Peace Price laureate F.W. de Klerk and an impressive list of international leaders, social activists, authors and performers will join His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama in Calgary Sept. 30 – Oct. 1 for the two-day NOW conference aimed at fostering community engagement.

                “The speakers assembled for our NOW conference in Calgary demonstrate the U of C’s unwavering commitment to international engagement and social responsibility,” said Harvey Weingarten, president of the University of Calgary.

                “It also shows our deep commitment to the larger Calgary community and our focus on giving our students real-life opportunities that transcend the classroom and a chance to hear from world-leading figures and thinkers.”

                President de Klerk shared the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize with fellow South African Nelson Mandela “for their work for the peaceful termination of the apartheid regime, and for laying the foundations for a new democratic South Africa.”

                Less than five months after becoming president in 1989, de Klerk announced plans to release Mandela from prison and legalize the previously banned African National Congress and Communist Party, which led to the country’s first-ever multi-racial elections and Mandela’s tenure as president.

                His Holiness the Dalai Lama will make a public address at Calgary’s Pengrowth Saddledome on Sept. 30. Tickets for this speech are no longer available. In September, when staging configurations are finalized, a number of additional student seats may be released.

                The NOW events will also have a concert component, listen NOW, featuring Bryan Adams and k.d. lang—two internationally renowned Canadian singer-songwriters.

                Tickets for the one-day conference including F.W. de Klerk, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Bryan Adams, k.d. lang and Sandra Oh are available through www.dalailamacalgary.com.


                New tour dates

                August 1 to 2
                FRANKFURT, GERMANY
                www.dalailama-frankfurt.de
                Dialogue: "One World One Mind One Heart" (global responsibilities with selected scientists and/or political personalities)
                Public Talk: "The Art of Living" on August 2
                An inter-religious event

                August 4
                LAUSANNE/PRILLY, SWITZERLAND
                www.dalailama-lausanne2009.ch
                Public Talk: "World Peace Through Inner Peace"

                August 4 to 6
                LAUSANNE/PRILLY, SWITZERLAND
                www.dalailama-lausanne2009.ch
                Teachings on August 4: "Lama Tsongkhapa's The Three Principal Aspects of the Path (lam ghi tsowo nampa soom)"
                Conferral of Medicine Buddha Initiation, followed by a long life offering ceremony on August 5

                August 16 to 21
                ZANSKAR, LADAKH, INDIA
                Teachings to be determined

                August 21 to 29
                LEH, LADAKH, INDIA
                Teachings to be determined

                Sept 30th - Oct 1
                Calgary Alberta Canada

                Former South African president and Nobel Peace Price laureate F.W. de Klerk and an impressive list of international leaders, social activists, authors and performers will join His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama in Calgary for the two-day NOW conference aimed at fostering community engagement.
                Tickets for the one-day conference including F.W. de Klerk, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, et al available through www.dalailamacalgary.com.


                October 4
                NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK
                The Hammerstein, Manhattan Center
                Sponsored by the Vietnamese community
                www.sixparamitas2009.org, (212) 307-7171
                Suzan Doan at info@sixparamitas2009.org
                Teaching: "The Six Paramitas"


                International News

                timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Worl...9.cms

                BEIJING: China is engaged in a war of words with France. . .
                It [ is ] fuming over a decision by the Paris City Council to give honorary citizenship to the Dalai Lama next month. .Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said on Thursday that the city of Paris should stop interfering in China's internal affairs.


                More background: The Dalai Lama as "Interfaith Hero"


                www.readthespirit.com/interfaith_heroes/

                2nd Annual Interfaith Heroes Month Hero No. 3: The Dalai Lama

                TENZIN GYATSO,
                THE 14th DALAI LAMA
                (B. 1935)

                "EACH RELIGION HAS certain unique ideas or techniques, and learning about them can only enrich one’s own faith."

                Tenzin Gyatso was born in a rural village in Tibet. Following the practices of Tibetan Buddhism he was recognized as the 14th reincarnation of the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lamas are believed to be the manifestation of Avalokiteshvara (also known as Chenrezig), the Bodhisattva or “enlightened being” of compassion and the patron saint of Tibet.

                As the Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso began his monastic education at the age of 6. He received his doctorate in Buddhist philosophy at 23, but prior to completing his education, politics intervened to shape his life in a dramatic fashion.

                In October, 1950, China invaded Tibet, and the next month the Dalai Lama assumed full political power in the Tibetan government where the Dalai Lama has traditionally been the absolute ruler.

                He initially sought to work within the Chinese Communist system. Then in 1959 there was a failed uprising by Tibetans that prompted the Dalai Lama to flee to India and set up a government in exile. Tens of thousands of Tibetans followed him into exile, leaving Tibet for India and other parts of the world.

                In exile the Dalai Lama began a thorough overhaul of the Tibetan political system. He abandoned the traditional heavy-handed feudalistic system and established democratic reforms in both the government-in-exile and in the plans for a constitution for a free Tibet. He sought nonviolent means for liberating Tibet, offering a peace proposal including negotiations with China. Those efforts were recognized with the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.

                In 2008 in the lead-up to the Beijing Olympics, another uprising and violent repression in Tibet focused world attention on the situation in that mountainous region. Shortly after the crisis initial contacts were made between the Dalai Lama and the Chinese government to open new negotiations to resolve the status of Tibet, though once again Tibetan hopes and dreams were frustrated when the talks failed to achieve any political change.

                His political efforts might seem enough to consume a lifetime, but the Dalai Lama has also emerged as a leader in global interfaith efforts. In articulating his three major commitments, his first is the promotion of human values such as compassion, forgiveness, tolerance, contentment and self-discipline. His second is to harmony and understanding among the world’s religious traditions. The third commitment is to the people of Tibet as their Dalai Lama.

                In pursuit of religious harmony he has met repeatedly with other global religious figures such as the Catholic Popes Paul VI and John Paul II and the Chief Rabbi of Israel as well as senior Muslim, Hindu, Sikh and Eastern Orthodox leaders. He sees the exchange of ideas and feelings between leaders of different religions as a way to “open the door to a progressive pacification between people.”

                The Dalai Lama is more than the formal head of a major religious group appearing in global religious congresses. He has gotten directly involved in the organizing and planning of such events. This direct involvement in interreligious affairs and events has led to many deep interpersonal relationships with people of other faiths. Those close to him have testified about his impact in their lives. Working with other contemplatives of different religions in the Monastic Interreligious Dialogue, the Dalai Lama helped produce the Universal Declaration on Nonviolence. At the World Congress of Faith he said, “Each religion has certain unique ideas or techniques, and learning about them can only enrich one’s own faith.”

                Through his relationships with so many religious leaders the Dalai Lama may have enriched his own faith, but countless people of other religions bear witness about how he has enriched their faith, as well.


                [ end ]

                Go Greens! Beat Reds!



                • While I know abuses do occur, I'm highly skeptical.

                  I generally support the right of nations to self determination, but not under certain leaderships. The USSR's occupation of what was Nazi Germany in 1945 is one foreign occupation I support. Likewise, the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia in 1979 that got rid of the murderous Pol Pot regime I think of as positive. In addition, I think that the USSR's role in Afghanistan was primarily progressive when they fought against the U.S. armed and financed religious fanatics and misogynists of the Mujahideen in support of the pro-woman PDPA government. And, like Tibet, the Union Army's invasion of the Confederacy and abolition of slavery was also progressive.

                  China won their independence from U.S. imperialism by overthrowing the Kuomintang dictatorship in 1949. Top feudal forces around the Dalai Lama offered themselves as eager agents, first to the reactionary Kuomintang forces led by Chiang Kai-shek on Taiwan and soon to the U.S. directly. The Dalai Lama's two older brothers, the "incarnated lama" Thubten Jigme Norbu and Gyalo Thondup, emerged as key Tibetan CIA agents. In the early 1950s, the U.S. invaded Korea and threatened to invade revolutionary China itself. Meanwhile, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) worked day and night to gather reactionary forces into its spy networks and to develop covert teams that could wage secret war against the Chinese Revolution.

                  Instead of allowing the U.S. to wage a contra war against the Chinese Revolution from Tibet, the new revolutionary government moved in troops and eventually overthrew the backward, theocratic, slave owning, limb amputating, eye gouging, peasant starving, healthcare and education denying, woman oppressing, theocratic ruling class. The Tibetan and Chinese people have both gained greatly from that action, so I am not willing to condemn it.

                  A political revolution in China, however, is needed to address many of the problems of dictatorial rule caused by the Stalinist bureaucracy including the need to grant greater self-determination and political and cultural rights to oppressed nationalities, while at the same time not handing power back to the old theocratic CIA backed Dalai Lama.
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        You linked to this thread. What do you think that tells us about you?
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          [end posting] you blowhard.
          • K
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            Re Steven:
            "While I know abuses do occur, I'm highly skeptical.
            I generally support the right of nations to self determination, but not under certain leaderships. . ."


            Maybe not.
            I posted against Steven on tribe Global Politics. He is a Red Communist, not a Green.
            See
            tribes.tribe.net/globalpol...da615da123
            Re: His Holiness the Dalai Lama . . .and let's not forget Albert Camus
            Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:32 AM

            Brent says, "yes, we've seen such ringing success stories where religion was outlawed by the state"

            Steven answers:
            "Stalinism has carried out abuses against religion. True communists oppose religion but we do not ban it."

            As a Green Party organizer and free society organizer, I oppose Communism, and fully support the opposite: formal international human rights treaties and their full implementation as defined at the United Nations.

            Steven however takes the side of the totalitarians, in fact several kinds of violent totalitarian groups. I here give the response I gave on tribe Global Politics.

            Go Greens! Beat Reds!

            KT



            Re: HH the Dalai Lama and Steven ( Communist and Revolutionary Islam / Taliban sympathizer )
            Re Brent:
            "Steven sounds a lot like George Bush -- "You're either with us or against us"
            You're either a revolutionary Communist or a Nazi Capitalist sympathizer "

            Steven is a declared Communist.
            Large scale communism often works exactly like Fascism ( Nazi Capitalism ) in practice. Take the People's Republic of China for example.

            Steven has also feebly attempted to challenge me based on my clear criticism of Taliban type revolutionary Islam.

            As a Green, I am for sustainable environmental democracy. The Taliban imposition of Sharia, along with their persistent killing and abductions of small schoolchildren in Afghanistan, really get in the way of democracy, peace, freedom, and so forth. Just like Stalinism, German National Socialism, and the totalitarian junta in Burma.

            Steven pleads the case for Islam and Taliban, for Stalin and Bejing and Communism generally.
            On a scale of 1 to 10 for peace and freedom and democracy, Steven scores a negative 20 ( 2 x -10 ).

            Everybody counts, not always to 10!

            KT

            Go Greens! Beat Reds!


            • K, the fact that you are willing to tell so many blatant lies about me here says a lot more about you than me. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

              I do, however, like Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney, oppose the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and oppose discrimination against Muslims.

              Nor have I ever said, as K claims, "You're either with us or against us" You're either a revolutionary Communist or a Nazi Capitalist sympathizer"

              I also see no reason for the left to let the Dalai Lama off the hook for his own support for the brutal foreign policies of the west. In addition, he also has some very reactionary views about human sexuality especially his views of gays and lesbians which are pretty much in line with those of the fundamentalists.
              • Below are Stevens words my words will be in (parentheses) (I do this for hope of clarity)
                _______________________________________________________________________
                Steven said;

                K, the fact that you are willing to tell so many blatant lies about me here says a lot more about you than me. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

                (When sensitive people feel Challenged or tested there calmness tends to falter, especially when the truths spoken of are close to the hearts of the individual. I also realize there are some truths that are outside the knowledge of the individual when a person tries to speak of these truths that are not within there knowledge because of the desire to satisfy or rise to the challenge or pressure of the gossip or as i pause "lack of knowledge of another's reality" because I know little about much of the truths or possible lies of the past issues spoken of here. I think, that please let us remember that every effort should still be made towards Peace, and maybe greater Green Party working togetherness after all this is the reason we are here in this tribe right, rather than derision, division, of harsh attacks, If there is to be side vs. side let the basic friends be allies against the more obvious problem, and when there is not problem let us be allies in creating the greater unity of community(which in many ways is what we are doing here even if this discussion seems a little Pointed)

                I do, however, like Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney, oppose the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and oppose discrimination against Muslims.

                (Great, I believe that is the greater Point of your words here. Point being relative Peace and greater Green Party Peace, and Green Party; value Respect for diversity. Kudos)

                Nor have I ever said, as K claims, "You're either with us or against us" You're either a revolutionary Communist or a Nazi Capitalist sympathizer"

                (Fire creates in some ways the need for self sustainability this can also be transmuted into strength and I personally choose some small empathy for self defense so I would advise K to let this one go, for Stevens respected recovery and need for self validation. Also I might advise Steven, That the Green Party needs all the support we can muster even if there are difference of opinions or it seems to be a unified Duality when life gives you lemons make lemonade as best you can. One person with the Party may be stronger in one area while another, another, the good advice here is the respect for distance and diversity or a good moderator. )

                I also see no reason for the left to let the Dalai Lama off the hook for his own support for the brutal foreign policies of the west. In addition, he also has some very reactionary views about human sexuality especially his views of gays and lesbians which are pretty much in line with those of the fundamentalists.

                ( Here I don't know enough about the situation "Dalai Lama off the hook for his own support for the brutal foreign policies of the west" From what I have seen the Dali Lama supports the Green party, and the green party has been outspoken about the brutal foreign policies of the west. It seems that speaks for itself to me at least.?. to speak, but why should the left put anybody on the "Hook" sounds uncomfortable to say the least. I thought we as Greens believe in Non-violence and peace as an end to war, Not necessarily the Peace that allows an individual to Hook another individual up the ass against there will especially a friend or co-worker without consent. Butt I do support small empathy for self defense and if you feel threaten now is your chance to tell me about it. How is that for reactionary. I support Gay and lesbian rights but not rape or attack for anyone as I say these words I hope you Tolerate if the reaction is not okay with you as I still firmly Say Peace is the Point. I remind you That I support Gay and lesbian rights, and I said this to further ignite the creative fire of discussion, not to offend if you assume that I mean harm I do not, if it seems I assumed you meant harm I did not and if it brings Peace I am relatively happy to apologize for my words, maybe on to gay rights....A wise person listens and speaks and leaves room for his own and others time and space for edification, but amidst the confluences of forces we can all almost allways use a friend, in other words I wish we could all shake virtual hands and make up.)

                Kudos Green Party Rocks!
                Peace & blessings
                Oo0oO
                • K
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                  "We are all brothers and sisters with the same mental and physical capacities, the same problems and the same needs. We must all contribute to the fulfillment of the human potential and the improvement of the quality of life as much as we are able. We are also being drawn together by the grave problems we face; over population, dwindling natural resources and an environmental crisis that threatens our air, water and trees, along with the vast number of beautiful life forms that are the very foundation of existence on this small planet we share.

                  "I believe that to meet the challenge of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not just for his or her own self, family or nation but for the benefit of all mankind. Universal responsibility is the real key to human survival. It is the best foundation for world peace, the equitable use of natural resources and through concern for future generations, the proper care of the environment."

                  His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama
                  June 2008 - Sydney, Australia


                  From Professor Robert Thurman, author of "Why the Dalai Lama Matters":
                  “We ourselves know what to do when we consult our deepest wisdom and feel our common human kindness. It does not mean we are going to have to believe in His Holiness, in some religious sense, since he tells us that we must think critically about what everyone says, including what we say to ourselves, and come to understand things on our own”.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    K
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                    Re Steven:
                    Steven answers:
                    "Stalinism has carried out abuses against religion. True communists oppose religion but we do not ban it."

                    Steven is self-declared as a Marxist-Leninist and a Stalinist. He quotes Marx against religion generally, and also highly regards the Stalinist takeover of Eastern Germany ( and by extension the Stalinist takeovers of Poland, Hungary, etc. )

                    Stalinist economic policy caused 7 million deaths from famine in Russia and the Ukraine.

                    Since he is of the professed opinion that capitalist America is a true ( and evil ) "Mordor", and cites Communist Chinese assessments of human rights in the US, he is clearly also a Maoist and supporter of the current Communist Chinese regime.

                    The Communists in China did not fight the Japanese invaders in World War II. The Chinese Communists killed tens of millions in their own country afterward, and took over Tibet and Mongolia by military force and massive population transfer.

                    The Communists killed between eighty million and one hundred million humans in the twentieth century, in Russia, China, Cambodia, Tibet and so forth. Most were unarmed civilians, men women and children. This is all well documented, starting with the loss of three million civilians in Cambodia under the terrorist Communist reign of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge, the Red ( Communist ) Khmer.

                    Communism in China, which Steven clearly supports, has attempted to take over the Roman Catholic Church and all the Buddhist fellowships. There were twenty million Buddhist monks and nuns in mainland China, and these were all removed from the monasteries.

                    In Tibet the Red Chinese Communists blew up five thousand to six thousand Buddhist monasteries, destroying about 99% of the Buddhist infrastructure there.

                    As a Chinese Communist lackey. Steven of course support this.

                    Greens do not support this kind of fascism and military expansionism and genocide and mass starvation, under Stalin or Mao Tse Dong of Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung etc.

                    Two of the most important people in the International Green Movement are the Dalai Lama and the imprisoned president elect of Burma Aung San Suu Kyi, both Buddhists and both Nobel Peace Laureates. They stand for participatory democracy, freedom of speech and international standards of human rights, the exact opposite of Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, and Pol Pot. And Steven.

                    Greens and Reds have nothing in common. Reds are all about war and destruction and genocide and totalitarianism. Greens are all about freedom and co-operation and international human rights.

                    Go Greens! Beat Reds!


                    KT

                    • Re: K's Continued Slanders

                      Sat, May 16, 2009 - 1:44 PM
                      I won't bother reading most of the lies posted here by "K" let alone respond to them.

                      I'll just respond to his first couple slanders.

                      "K" titles his list of slanders against me, "Stalinist Steven ( a Red ) on tribe Green Party"

                      I am anti-Stalinist and "K" knows it. I oppose Stalin's political counter-revolution against October 1917 Revolution, oppose Stalin's murder of all of the original leadership of the Russian Revolution, oppose his mass murder and terror of the population in general, oppose Stalin's overturning of Gay rights gained for the first time in the world by the October Revolution, oppose Stalin's overturning of some of the gains made with the October Revolution for oppressed nationalities, oppose Stalin's overturning of some of the gains made with the October Revolution for women, and I oppose Stalin's "Theory of Socialism in One Country" used by Stalin to betray the revolutionary movements of other countries in order to gain trade from the capitalist countries.

                      "K" then helps prove my point by quoting me saying, "Stalinism has carried out abuses against religion. True communists oppose religion but we do not ban it."

                      "K" then lies about me again saying, "Steven is self-declared as a Marxist-Leninist and a Stalinist."

                      Another total lie. I am anti-Stalinist and "K" knows it. But this is just another blatant lie like his lie that I support the Taliban. So much for K being a holier than thou Buddhist. Instead he is a blatant liar.

                      "K" then states, "He [Steven] quotes Marx against religion generally"

                      Yes, I do. Marx has written some very good things on the nature of religion. Unlike "K", I don't support one religion (Buddhism) while unjustifiably attacking the believers of another religion (Islam). Many people have been killed, oppressed, and exploited in the name of Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, etc. His intolerance towards Islam gives lie to the myth of Buddhist exceptionalism.

                      "K" then jumps to another subject saying, "and [Steven] also highly regards the Stalinist takeover of Eastern Germany ( and by extension the Stalinist takeovers of Poland, Hungary, etc. )"

                      Way to twist things "K". Yes, I do think that the USSR's defeat of Nazi Germany a major step forward for humanity, just as I think the Union Army's defeat of the Confederacy was a good thing. Does this mean I support every act of Lincoln and Stalin? No, it does not.

                      K's blatant lies and slanders are obvious for all to see. He lies about me because he cannot answer the fact that the Dalai Lama ruled over a brutal theocracy where slavery was legal and the vast majority lived in grinding poverty, had no access to school or healthcare, and escaped slaves and communists had eyes and limbs removed. While I would support a political revolution in China, I do not support U.S. imperialist attempts and the attempts of western new-agers to re-impose a Dalai Lama government on the people of Tibet.
                      • Re: K's Continued Slanders

                        Mon, May 18, 2009 - 3:37 AM
                        I am blue.
                        Come on get it together.
                        Personal responsibility is great and also communities trying to resolve problems and work together for a greater sense of Peace.
                        Which is sorta what we are doing here, especially if we can let go or be let go of by some of these relatively old past problems and again move together towards, what? as Green party people. I would say lets talk about soulutions to some of the problems that we face as K pointed out some very pressing issues. I am not going to alienate anyone as best as I can, by saying not part of the solution, part of the problem, because that is not completely true, even amidst the problem much can be accomplished, but i believe that if we continue to get up from it and try to work or focus more towards, with, or for, the soultions or ideals even our own individual issues and definitely our collective ones than we are getting somewhere.
                        If I may ask another question, with hopefully your lighthearted sense of humors attention.... Where are we (sarcasm) Where(state of mind, collective mind, or physical whereabouts relative to where we do not want to be and where we really want, need or even hope to be as Green Party (also I think there is logic in downsizing the conversation, rather than talking to much about the past, the problems of the world, that yes, are very relative, but what can we as Greens, or workers for peace, really, or practically do about it? Rather than a lot of mental masturbation, or.......maybe masturbation is not so bad essentially if it gets a laugh when things seems so heavy.

                        Peace

                        Oo0oO
                        • Re: K's Continued Slanders

                          Mon, May 18, 2009 - 7:22 AM

                          This is not mental masturbation.

                          The biggest obstacle to peace in the world is U.S. imperialism. The Dalai Lama supports U.S. imperialism and U.S. imperialist wars while masquerading as a man of peace and, in turn, the Dalai Lama is also supported by U.S. imperialism.

                          Likewise K, a propagandist for the Dalai Lama, lies about me and slanders me for opposing U.S. imperialism. He does this using the typical right-wing attacks, accusing me of supporting the Taliban and radical Islam in general as well as accusing me of being a Stalinist. These are blatant lies and slanders.

                          K's level of discussion here in this thread, using blatant lies and slanders against the messenger to answer legitimate criticisms of the Dalai Lama and U.S. imperialism clearly shows which side he is on. I appreciate your attempts at mediation, but some differences are irreconcilable.
                          • K
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                            Re: "a damper on our relationship"

                            Mon, May 18, 2009 - 1:04 PM
                            Re Steven:
                            "but some differences are irreconcilable. . ."

                            Agreed!
                            Genocide and your support for same, plus the military takeovers in Mongolia and Tibet, developed through the Communist context DOES put a damper on our relationship. Not to mention your cough-cough "credibility". No doubt about it! Marxist = Bloody Marxist. Dude isn't even a crypto-Marxist or a Watermelon Green.

                            Let's flip the script. Let's go for international support for human rights, and de-legitimize state terror and totalitarian juntas.

                            KT, for international Green Party Movement, Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Aung San Suu Kyi, Ralph Nader, Petra Kelly, and anybody else that's worthwhile, y'know
                            • K
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                              Re Auel:
                              "in spite of plenty of democracies and plenty of Human Rights concern, the world is full of poverty. . ."

                              The overall answer is very simple.
                              The Marxist military regime of Pol Pot in Cambodia slaughtered 3 million unarmed men women and children. If the Cambodians had instead a working democracy, then they could have avoided the slaughter and destruction and instead worked on farming to feed their countrymen.

                              Islamic regimes in Pakistan and Indonesia have blocked the transfer of critical food aid/ disaster aid to the desperately needy in thier countries, including by France and so forth. These Islamists fear and hate the West, and the West's ability to Be Good And Help Others. This makes it hard for the "evil" westerners to appear quite so politically and religiously evil. It's not politically correct.

                              In Burma following the major hurricane, there was absolutely no relief aid allowed in from anywhere. Half a million to a million people suffered and continue to suffer greatly. This certainly would not happen in a democratic context. It happens solely due to the totalitarian oppression of a fascist Burmese military. This is the real reason why international human rights are so critically necessary.

                              I am talking facts and common sense and evidence-based reasoning. I am talking about law and co-operation and the mitigation of major human suffering following disasters and stepwise neutralization of any and all totalitarian regimes through peaceful international efforts.

                              Clearly you Auel set little stock by the principles of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of belief and so forth. So sorry to hear it. It is truly regrettable that somehow you are unable to see why those thousands and millions in need of direct disaster relief should have the chance to get simple food aid and shelter relief from non-political international efforts, and why totalitarian regimes block this.

                              UN workers and infrastructure play critical roles in peacekeeping and relief help when they are allowed to do so. Perhaps you are completely unaware of these efforts in recent decades.

                              I recommend to you Auel, that you begin learning about Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the United Nations, the political dimensions of poverty relief and so forth.

                              Surely you could learn about human rights issues in Dafur and Afghanistan and so forth by going to BBC News, at
                              news.bbc.co.uk/

                              The above is just a starter, but it should help. The point is that there are basic humanitarian standards of human behavior and social organization, and these are clearly and effectively embodied in the major international treaties of human rights. If you do not support these treaties overall, that means you do not support even the Amended Geneva Convention on Warfare.

                              Again I will say that Marxists killed about eighty million to one hundred million men women and children in Russia, China, Tibet, Cambodia and so forth. Often with guns and regional level destruction of civilian life and infrastructure, and often by mass starvation. Those activities clearly violate the Amended Geneva Convention on Warfare, as well as many other signed protocols.

                              Communism is proven to be consistently genocidal and destructive of human culture on all levels. Democracy is not, since it works by negotiation rather than general warfare per se. I hope this distinction is clear and significant to you and others. It is a central issue in Global Politics, and that is the name of the game, is it not?

                              KT

                              Peace and Freedom for all peoples.

                              • K
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                                Re: HH the Dalai Lama: "regional wars are different from democracy"

                                Re Auel:
                                ". . .and we have regional wars in many places. . ."

                                Yes, we do. I am aware of it. I read about it on BBC News. I know, as many do, about about Sudan and Dafur over the last twenty years. I know about Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iraq and the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

                                Please be informed that these regional wars are not the fault or responsibility of democracy per se.

                                Iraq is all about tribal civil war between Sunni Islamic tribes and Shia Islamic tribes. That clearly has nothing to do with democracy. It goes back quite a few centuries.

                                The same with is true with the Islamic conquests of Afghanistan, south Asia, and so forth. The situation in Dafur develops from tribal Arabic and Islamic extension of power into Africa.

                                It took the Spanish four hundred years to kick the Arab Muslims out of Spain. That had nothing whatsoever to do with democracy. It was about reversing Islamic conquest. And even to this day major Islamic scholars support slavery as part of Islamic Law.

                                So that is a little history lesson. I hope it helps clear things up.

                                KT

                                Go Greens! Beat Reds!


                                • Auel?

                                  Mon, May 18, 2009 - 9:26 PM

                                  More strawmen and false representations of history from "K".

                                  I'd answer his stuff, but none of it responds any of my political positions in the first place.

                                  And K's falsified and over-simplified version of history really contains far too many errors for me to spend the time correcting him.

                                  In addition, Auel isn't even a member of this group, why is K talking about him here?
                                  • Re: Auel?

                                    Thu, May 21, 2009 - 8:56 AM
                                    You are right this is not mental masturbation, mental masturbation is a little more enjoyable and Peace oriented than this, although even still relatively lonely. Are there any courageous woman in this tribe, who may be willing to try and balance or offer inspiration?
                                    • Cambodia

                                      Thu, May 21, 2009 - 11:17 AM

                                      K in his support for U.S. imperialism makes far too many historical errors for me to correct them all. But here are a couple errors he makes:

                                      "The Marxist military regime of Pol Pot in Cambodia slaughtered 3 million unarmed men women and children. If the Cambodians had instead a working democracy, then they could have avoided the slaughter and destruction and instead worked on farming to feed their countrymen."

                                      The first point is not meant to be a defense of Pol Pot, but for historical accuracy the actual number of people who died as a result of his regime was between 750,000 to 1.7 million.

                                      Pol Pot was not a Marxist. Marxists base our program on working class emancipation, not the liquidation of the working class and industry for a completely agrarian economy as was carried out under Pol Pot. Pol Pot's program of de-industrialization was the exact opposite of Marxism.

                                      It was the Vietnamese deformed workers' state that invaded Cambodia and got rid of the murderous Pol Pot regime in 1979. After Vietnam did so, the United States gave military aid to Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge and other smaller contra forces. If that U.S. funded contra war had succeeded Pol Pot would have been put back in power. It was the heroic fight of the Vietnamese and Cambodian people against U.S. imperialism and the Khmer Rouge that prevented such an evil outcome from happening.
                                      • Re: Cambodia

                                        Fri, May 22, 2009 - 3:22 PM
                                        Where the problems surrounds confusion abounds.
                                        Care to offer a soulution.......

                                        • "Where the problems surrounds confusion abounds.
                                          Care to offer a soulution......."

                                          Bring Down the Bourgeoisie Through Workers Revolution!

                                          World Capitalism Plunges

                                          www.internationalist.org/world...3.html

                                          19 MARCH 2009 – The global economic crisis continues to deepen, month after month. With the financial crisis that exploded in September 2008, the international credit system effectively froze, making it virtually impossible for even the largest firms with the best ratings to obtain new loans. In what amounts to a slow-motion stock market crash, values on financial exchanges worldwide have have been cut in half from their 2007 highs. Since then, the plunge has moved from the realm of what Karl Marx called “fictitious capital” to the real economy. In the past five months, there has been a sharp drop in industrial production, investments, exports, consumer spending, construction and just about every other major indicator of economic activity in virtually every country of the capitalist world. This marks a big difference from all other recent economic crises, where countries could recover by exporting to other markets (notably the United States) or pouring money into new speculative bubbles. Not this time.

                                          Although attention has been focused on the financial crisis – and on the Wall Street bankers, hedge fund operators insurance company execs who have made out like bandits – the economic downturn began almost a year earlier. In the U.S, this is already be the longest recession since World War II, and it’s not ending any time soon. Housing prices fell by 20 percent last year in major markets and 10 percent of all mortgages are in arrears or default; 19 million houses and apartments are standing empty around the country, while homelessness increases. More than 4.4 million jobs have been lost so far, 650,000 in each of the last three months. While the official unemployment rate is at 8.1 percent, the actual rate is considerably higher (the government fudges the statistics by not counting those who have given up looking for work). The broader unemployment count is now 14.8 percent of the workforce, and it’s heading a lot higher. Consumer spending has gone through the floor, especially for big ticket items like automobiles (down 41 percent in February).

                                          One economist quipped that not so long ago people were buying cars, big screen TVs and refrigerators like they were groceries; now they are buying groceries like they are cars. Just as in the 1930s farmers dumped “surplus” milk while people went hungry, today sales of dairy products have dropped so far that there is an “oversupply” of cows so farmers are selling off (and killing off) their herds! Another sign of the times: General Electric, which was considered the gold standard of blue chip stocks because it paid a dividend straight through the 1930s, announced at the end of February it was cutting its dividend by two-thirds. One anguished retiree wrote in response: “We are retired. My husband is 90 1/2 and is not to proud to eat the food I will have to now get us dumpster diving. We needed that dividend for food.”

                                          Recession or Depression? Suddenly the rulers are beginning to mention the dreaded “D-word.” Bourgeois economists have described recent recessions as “V-shaped,” with a sharp decline followed by sharp upturns. They at first said the current crisis looked like a “U-shaped” recession, lasting longer at the bottom before turning up. Now quite a few are saying that this crisis will be “L-shaped”: plunging straight down, and staying there. The CEO of Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, said in announcing 5,000 layoffs, the first significant cuts ever for the computer giant: “Our model is not for a quick rebound. Our model is things go down, and then they reset. The economy shrinks” (New York Times, 23 January). Or as John Silvia, chief economist at Wachovia Bank, put it (New York Times, 7 March):

                                          “These jobs aren’t coming back.... A lot of production either isn’t going to happen at all, or it’s going to happen somewhere other than the United States. There are going to be fewer stores, fewer factories, fewer financial services operations. Firms are making strategic decisions that they don’t want to be in their businesses.”

                                          What is to be done? In short, the recession is rapidly becoming a depression, although the capitalist rulers don’t want to say so because they fear that would set off an even worse panic. Generally, “mainstream” economists say a depression (which they used to claim was no longer possible) is just a worse recession. But there is a significant difference. The series of recessions every 5-7 years that one can find at any point in the history of capitalism is an expression of the cyclical nature of the production for profit system. However, when production remains stuck at severely depressed levels for years this is not cyclical but the result of a crisis of the capitalist system itself. In the 1930s, economist John Maynard Keynes analyzed that the economy was caught in a “liquidity trap,” so that governments had to inject large amounts of money to get production going again. It is now admitted even by bourgeois economists that this was insufficient and only World War II put an end to the Great Depression of the ’30s.

                                          The recipe of the monetarist “free market” economists for dealing with an economic downturn was to lower interest rates. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke tried that, driving down interest rates to near zero percent, but the banks wouldn’t lend. Bush’s Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson then tried giving away vast amounts of dollars to the bankers (the $750 billion “bailout”), but they just put the money in their reserves (or gave themselves bonuses). Even free money wouldn’t restart the stalled economic engine. Now Obama is trying the standard Keynesian answer, to pump cash into the economy through public works in the $825 billion “stimulus” bill. But that will only have a limited impact as well, and unemployment will keep soaring. It won’t work because it assumes that the basic problem of the economy is underconsumption: give the people more money, they will buy more, companies will produce more, banks will lend more, etc. But the problem that set off the crisis isn’t that people weren’t consuming – on the contrary, egged on by the banks and credit card companies, American consumers were busy spending money they didn’t have, sinking into debt.

                                          The underlying issue behind both the waves of financial speculation and now the sharp drop in the real economy is the overproduction of capital, and therefore of goods, and the associated falling rate of profit. The rate of real capital formation in the advanced capitalist countries has been extremely low since the late 1980s because investors figure they can’t get a sufficient rate of return on their capital investing in production. So instead they “invest” it in stock market speculation, information technology or housing bubbles, and when those burst they just sit on the cash. Building highways or “green” energy projects won’t change that, the “multiplier effect” of deficit spending will be minimal. Under capitalism, the only way the rate of profit can be restored is through the destruction of capital, by massive bankruptcies producing millions of unemployed, or by imperialist war laying waste to productive capacity. Or, as happened in the 1930s and ’40s, by both. After the bloodbath is over and a “reasonable” profit rate restored, the production cycle will resume ... at a cost of untold mass misery.

                                          The present global capitalist economic crisis is not cyclical or even structural but systemic. Neither monetarists nor Keynesians can solve it. But as Lenin and Trotsky insisted, capitalism will not collapse of its own accord. The capitalist answer to a crisis of overproduction is barbarism: the imperialist war mongers will try to shoot their way out of the mess the capitalists have created. The only way to defend the very existence of the proletariat today is by mobilizing our class power to demand what we need. A series of transitional demands should be raised pointing to the need bring down the bourgeoisie and institute workers rule (see “Exchange on Transitional Demands”). That centrally requires breaking the stranglehold of the capitalist parties and building a workers party that fights for international socialist revolution, which can lay the basis for a planned economy producing to fulfill human needs rather than profit. ■
                                          • Honestly but simply subjectively, relatively specking No, but, yes , no and something completely different.
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                                            And you.....Care to offer a solution.......
                                            • Forge a Revolutionary Workers Party!

                                              Tue, May 26, 2009 - 1:57 AM
                                              "And you.....Care to offer a solution......."

                                              I just did. Here are some more:

                                              New Commander-in-Chief, Same Bloody System of Oppression

                                              Obama Presidency:
                                              U.S. Imperialism Tries a Makeover
                                              Forge a Revolutionary Workers Party!

                                              www.internationalist.org/obama...2.html

                                              On January 20, the baton was formally passed from George W. Bush to Barack Hussein Obama as leader of the United States, the most powerful imperial power in the history of the world, presently mired in losing imperialist wars and the deepest economic crisis in three-quarters of a century. The fact that for the first time ever, a black person had been elected president, was celebrated by well over a million people who thronged to the inaugural in Washington, D.C. and tens of millions more who watched it on television around the U.S. and the world. For the African American Obama to take office in the highest elected position in this country reflected a considerable social change in this country founded on chattel slavery, where Jim Crow segregation continued into the 1960s – and where in the 21st century blacks and Latinos have still been prevented from voting. But this has not changed the system of imperialist capitalism one iota: with Obama at the helm, the U.S. is bombing Iraq and Afghanistan to hell, marauding in Pakistan, supplying the weaponry for Israeli slaughter in Gaza, throwing millions out of work in the U.S. while enslaving workers with starvation wages around the planet.

                                              The Internationalist Group did not call for a vote for Obama, the candidate of the Democratic Party, one of the twin parties of racist American capitalism, nor do we celebrate his presidency. Instead, we called for a revolutionary workers party and warned of the illusions that have been awakened (with help from the opportunist left) that the election of the first African American president would represent “change we can believe in,” as Obama’s campaign propaganda trumpeted. Our stand was and is guaranteed to be unpopular, for now. Coming after eight years of the Bush regime, a government born of a judicial coup d’état which was hated around the world and widely despised even in the United States, many identified their hopes with Obama. After a bitter election campaign in which Democrat Hillary Clinton and then Republican John McCain and his running mate, the ultra-rightist Sarah Palin, resorted to bigoted appeals, many young people, black and white, older veterans of the Civil Rights movement, white liberals and Latino and Asian immigrants hailed Obama’s victory as a blow against racism. But Obama in office will preside over a racist system.

                                              Inauguration Day was a huge orchestrated feel-good celebration of “inclusion” and “diversity.” TV cameras focused on signs saying “We have overcome” and “Yes, we did.” The Amsterdam News (17 January), New York’s premier black newspaper, ran a big front-page photo of Martin Luther King, Jr. and the headline, “The Dream Realized,” referring to King’s famous “I have a dream” speech at the 1963 civil rights March on Washington. (Ironically, the article below it headlined, “Cop arrested over shooting of unarmed black man.”) A poll reported that 69 percent of the population thought King’s dream of racial harmony had been realized. The New York Times (21 January) proclaimed “a day of celebration that climaxed a once-inconceivable journey for the man and his country.” It also noted that when the now-ex president Bush took off from the Capitol in a helicopter many in the crowd gave a farewell Bronx cheer “along with some one-fingered salutes.” CNN’s Wolf Blitzer took a break from spewing out a steady diet of Zionist war propaganda for Israel’s invasion of Gaza to quote from a Jamaican woman who said “America can give itself a couple of pats on the back” for electing a black president.

                                              At his inauguration, Obama proclaimed a “new era of responsibility,” hailing “loyalty and patriotism” and “spirit of service” embodied in the soldiers who “patrol far-off deserts” (Iraq and Afghanistan) and fought in places like Khe Sanh (Vietnam). He referred to the economic crisis wracking the U.S., blaming it on the greed of some and “our collective failure to make hard choices” – as if the implosion of the banking system after years of unbridled speculation was also the fault of working people whose wages fell steadily while the Wall Street moguls and captains of industry wallowed in obscene wealth. One commentator dared to break the reverential praise to ask of Obama’s speech, “why did it come out so much sounding like Ronald Reagan?” In fact, Obama has often praised Reagan for fostering “entrepreneurship” after “all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s” during which “government had grown and grown.” Far from representing “change,” Obama is firmly in the mold of Bill Clinton’s “New Democrats,” who appeal to the left in primary elections, run to the center in the general election and govern from the right.

                                              Internationally, rulers, media and manufactured popular opinion uniformly greeted the new American president with enthusiasm. In Mexico, even “progressive” intellectuals, generally skeptical of U.S. intentions and actions, were caught up in “Obamamania.” La Jornada (20 January) editorialized that “Obama’s path leads us to believe that he will arrive at the White House with signs of human and social sensibility, of respect for other countries,” unlike his predecessor. Columnists opined that “one must give Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt.” But other Spanish and Latin American writers noted “The Emperor’s Old Clothes” (Carlo Frabetti) and “Imperial Leopardism” (Atilio Borón), from Tomasi di Lampedusa’s novel The Leopard (Il gattopardo) about 19th century Sicily, where “something must change so that everything can stay the same.” The Washington inaugural was watched with special attention in Gaza where many hoped for a statement from Obama with even the slightest criticism of the criminal Israeli bombardment and occupation. Instead, the new president declared that “Israel’s security is paramount” – a virtual endorsement of the massacre of over 1,300 Palestinians, the Zionists’ greeting to their new patron.

                                              Continuity the Ruling Class Can Count On

                                              While many liberals and reformist leftists deluded themselves into believing that Obama would provide a break from the policies of the past, the Democratic candidate was careful to commit himself to very little – and now he is ripping up his few campaign promises one after another. The shift began with his cabinet appointments, starting with Rahm Emmanuel, who volunteered to work on an Israeli army base during the 1991 Persian Gulf war and whose father was a member of the right-wing Zionist terrorist Irgun. The new administration is chock full of recycled officials from the Democratic administration of Bill Clinton, starting with his primary rival Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. To this was added a prominent holdover from the Bush regime, Robert Gates, as war secretary. Gates, a long-time senior CIA official, was up to his neck in the Iran-Contra scandal and the war on Sandinista Nicaragua in the 1980s. Alongside these war hawks, Obama’s national security advisor is General James Jones, the former Supreme Commander of Allied Forces Europe, who up to December 15 was a director of the Boeing aircraft and Chevron oil corporations. “Military-industrial complex” anyone?

                                              On the campaign trail and since, Obama occasionally indulged in some populist rhetoric, but it’s just for show. If his national security team is loaded with Pentagon brass, his economic team is top heavy with Wall Street execs and members of the academic-financial axis. Ben Bernanke stays on as chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank, and Timothy Geithner as Treasury Secretary will keep on servicing the big banks as he did for Bush as president of the New York Fed, and for Clinton as a deputy Treasury secretary. His bosses then were former Goldman Sachs CEO Robert Rubin and Larry Summers (a devotee of conservative economist Milton Friedman) who is now head of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisors. Rubin and Summers ditched restrictions that kept commercial banks out of investment banking and deregulated derivatives, setting the stage for the orgy of speculation that triggered the current crisis. As candidate, Obama joined McCain in endorsing the $725 billion bank bailout, and as he was about to take office he ordered Congress to fork over the second half of this huge money pot, or else.

                                              No wonder a Wall Street Journal (28 November 2008) editorial praised “Obama’s War Cabinet” as “not bad.” In the same issue of the bankers’ daily, George W. Bush’s former Rasputin, Karl Rove, called Obama’s economic team “reassuring” and “thanksgiving cheer” for businessmen. A few weeks later (9 January) the conservative Journal’s Washington commentator Gerald Seib wrote: “Rarely has a president – to say nothing of a Democratic president – been thrown into the arms of the business community on his way in the door as has Barack Obama.” Ever since the election, the president-elect went on an offensive to court Republicans. He consulted often with his opponent John McCain, and even had a private dinner with a gaggle of right-wing pundits, one of whom (William Kristol) wrote a column summing up Obama’s “no-dramatic-change-in-policy-in-the-White-House” line as “continuity we can believe in” (New York Times, 12 January). Two weeks later, Kristol published his last column for the Times, proclaiming Obama’s inauguration “the end of a conservative era.”

                                              Liberals are not so sanguine. A writer for the Internet magazine Salon (17 January), David Sirota, headlined “Obama Sells Out to Wall Street,” adding: “The president-elect’s support of the bank bailout is payback to his wealthy Wall Street supporters.” He noted that the Democrat was “a politician who raised more Wall Street dough than any other,” and “whose inauguration festivities are being underwritten by the very bankers who are benefiting from the bailout largesse.” Payback, certainly, but Obama can hardly be accused of “selling out” to the money men. Not only is he the standard bearer of a party that has been a pillar of U.S. capitalism since the 1830s, his campaign was financed from the outset by big bucks from high finance, as well as from well-heeled Hollywood moguls and Silicon Valley venture capital. Only a quarter of the record-breaking $745 million his presidential campaign raised came from small donors (New York Times, 6 January). The first black president is a vivid demonstration of how American “democracy” is government over the working people by the capitalist politicians and for the bourgeoisie.

                                              Not only have the Democratic president’s personnel picks and economic policies pleased conservatives, so have his other moves. Notably, Obama stopped talking about withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq in 16 months and now refers to being “on a glide path to reduce our forces in Iraq.” At a mid-December meeting in Chicago with Obama’s national security team, a plan was presented, drawn up by Bush’s generals Petraeus and Odierno, that called only for withdrawing about 5 percent of U.S. forces (7,000-8,000 troops) over six months while many units remaining in Iraq would be “remissioned” from combat troops to “trainers” and “enablers.” Even after the “withdrawal” some time in the future, plans are for close to 50,000 U.S. troops to remain in Iraq indefinitely according to Gen. Odierno (New York Times, 29 January). Tens of thousands more will be stationed just over the border in Kuwait and other Gulf states, not to mention the 30,000-plus mercenaries and over 100,000 other “contractors” paid for by the U.S..

                                              Obama has sought to piece off his liberal/“progressive” supporters with symbolic gestures like executive orders to close the Guantánamo torture prison (a year from now), and limiting interrogation techniques to those in the Army Field Manual 2-22.3 (which doesn’t include “waterboarding”). But this only applies to prisoners captured in “armed conflicts” (not “counterterrorism” operations) and does not include special techniques too secret to be made public. Meanwhile, “extraordinary renditions” of prisoners to torture regimes will continue and even increase, as the U.S. tries to offload many of the 245 prisoners presently at Guantánamo. It is unclear what will happen to the over 600 prisoners crammed into even more gruesome facilities at the U.S. airbase at Bagram in Afghanistan, at least two of whom have been tortured to death. And Obama has no intention of prosecuting the hundreds of U.S. officers and military personnel implicated in the torture as well as their civilian bosses in the Pentagon and White House, or the Justice Department lawyers and top officials who authorized these war crimes.


                                              The essential continuity of Obama’s presidency with that of Bush was demonstrated in concrete action during his first week in office.

                                              * In Afghanistan, on January 23, three days after the inaugural, U.S. Special Forces staged a raid in Laghman province, gunning down 16 villagers, including two women and three children. After angry protests of hundreds in the provincial capital, even the American satrap installed as Afghan “president,” Hamid Karzai, demanded a stop to such raids, to no avail.

                                              * Across the border in Pakistan, on the same night as the Afghan raid, missiles launched from remotely controlled U.S. aircraft known as Predators killed at least 15 people in the region of Waziristan. Such attacks were authorized by secret orders signed by President Bush last July, and his successor is continuing this policy – a clear act of aggression which the Pakistani government has repeatedly denounced.

                                              * And in Iraq, on January 25, U.S. Special Operations troops shot and killed a couple in their home near Kirkuk, carrying out this murder in front of their 8-year-old daughter.

                                              Since then, Obama has announced that he is ordering 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan, an escalation of almost 50 percent of U.S. forces in the country. And the future “withdrawal” of “combat troops” from Iraq has been stretched from 16 to 19 months, with almost no reductions in 2009, while the number of “residual forces” to be stationed there indefinitely keeps growing.

                                              In short, Barack (“Bomb ‘em”) Obama, who early on posed as an opponent of the Iraq war, has quickly become a certified war criminal. But have you seen any protests asking the popular black president – as they did of Bush, Nixon and LBJ – “how many kids did you kill today”? The “antiwar movement” called off protests for the duration of the election campaign in order to elect Obama, and it’s still covering for him. Because that is the role of this popular front – to chain protests against imperialist slaughter to the Democrats, who are historically and today the main war party of American capitalism. Obama never was an antiwar candidate, he only opposed “dumb” wars like Iraq that were doomed to failure.

                                              But there’s dumb ... and dumber. Bush’s invasion and occupation of Iraq has drained U.S. military and economic strength in a quest for world domination. Obama’s vow to escalate the war in Afghanistan, spread over a far larger, mountainous territory, and at the same time to attack Pakistan, with eight times the population and the only Islamic country with nuclear weapons to boot, could set off a chain reaction that would send the entire region up in flames. Any genuine opponent of imperialism must break with both capitalist parties and build a workers party on the program of international socialist revolution.
                                              • Re: Forge a Revolutionary Workers Party!

                                                Wed, May 27, 2009 - 1:29 AM
                                                Build a workers party on the program of international socialist revolution.

                                                Okay It is done

                                                What does this mean to you and how does this relate to the Green party as you see the Green Party?
                                                • Re: Forge a Revolutionary Workers Party!

                                                  Wed, July 15, 2009 - 2:32 AM

                                                  "Build a workers party on the program of international socialist revolution. Okay It is done."

                                                  Nope. We've got a long way to go.

                                                  "What does this mean to you and how does this relate to the Green party as you see the Green Party?"

                                                  I've always been open and honest about the fact that I'm to the left of the Green Party.

                                                  For instance, I oppose the local Green Party in Santa Cruz who have an elected representative in office who has a record of supporting police repression and violence against anti-war activities, against free speech activities, and who voted for a law that makes it illegal for the homeless to sleep at night.

  • www.youtube.com/watch

    From the Q & A after a lecture at the University of Michigan last year.

    It may seem naive, but I'm still willing to believe that H. H. the D. L. is sincere in his mission. His work may have started with a global plea to free Tibet from China, but it has evolved into truly spreading the wisdom and values of the Buddha and his true disciples worldwide, with the aim of a peaceful, sustainable world. Not even he could have hoodwinked so many smart people who have had the chance to meet with him, and hidden some agenda for restoring the tyranny that was Tibet before 1950.

    • Really? Just look at how many people Obama hoodwinked.
      • K
        K
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        Re DBC:
        "It may seem naive, but I'm still willing to believe that H. H. the D. L. is sincere in his mission. . . "

        Yes, it's his entire life. That's sincerity. That sincerity ( determination, focus etc. ) won him a Nobel Peace Prize, as noted by me above.

        Please remember also - especially you "watermelon greens" - that none of the genocidal Communist dictators ( like Stalin, Pol Pot, or Mao Tse Tung ) ever received the Nobel Peace Prize.

        Someone once asked Mohanda Gandhi if he had a message for the people. Gandhi answered:
        "Tell them my life is my message."

        Steven on the other hand, doesn't hoodwink anyone. He's foolish enough to whine about the fair open election of Barack Obama as "hoodwinking". It's not, it's a straightforward election. And the US is not Mordor, Steven, despite your ludicrous Communist dogma. Stalinist Russia was Mordor, just like Nazi Germany. Just like Communist Cambodia under Pol Pot. Just like North Korea.

        Go Greens!
        Beat Reds!

        KT
        for the international green movement and the Rio Earth Summit Greens ( incl. the Dalai Lama ), as always

        • More blatant lies from K. He keeps lying about me pretending I support Pol Pot, Stalin, etc etc. Who has the time for such blatant slander and dishonesty?

          In regards to Pol Pot, I campaigned against US aid that was being sent to that genocidal mass murderer. It was Vietnam, after being attacked by Pol Pot, that drove Pol Pot from power and it was the US that came to Pol Pot's aid.

          And unlike K and Obama, I oppose US imperialism such as the continued US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and US support to the death squad government of Colombia.
        • Lest anyone think I'm picking on K, the largest Buddhist internet forum requires that ordination and similar information be published prior to claims being made regarding monastic status and nearly every anuttara-tantra internet forum likewise requires people to provide information about the circumstances of their empowerments.

          If these are the standards simple monks and novice tantric initiates held to, the standard for tantric gurus should be *at least* as stringent. Vajrayana has particular requirement regarding its gurus and anyone claiming to be a tantric guru should be prepared to show how, when, and under whom, they met those requirements. This is how the tradition has always guarded against fraudulent teachers. Simple common sense dictates that if you make a claim you should be ready to back it up with evidence, and this is a basic principle that extends well beyond just Vajrayana.

          So, with that in mind I once again ask a few questions of K:

          Please provide the name of the teacher(s) under whom you've been "individually trained and licensed" as a "Mahayana Buddhist guru".

          Please also provide *your* name and the date of the licensing so that this claim can be verified.

          Please provide the name of the teacher who oversaw your training as a Vajracharya and the date and location of your three-year-retreat. Additionally please provide the name (if different) of the individual who oversaw your x00,000 mantra and Fire-puja retreat, and as well as the date and location of that retreat (again, only if different from the three-year-retreat). As you well know, to be a tantric guru the samaya require it:

          "This means that we may confer empowerment on others or perform the self-initiation to restore our lost or weakened tantric vows only if we have completed the meditation retreat of the appropriate Buddha-figure, repeating the prescribed mantras hundreds of thousands of times, and offered the concluding fire-puja"

          I would like your name and the names of these authorizing lamas not only to verify that you are what you claim to be, but also to try elicit an official statement from them about your conduct on tribe. I strongly suspect that you are a fraud, but if you aren't one, I want to know what your teachers think about the way you behave.

          Regards,
          Ryan "not a guru" Parker